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Wednesday, November 7, 2012

OSHO: What is True Love? - सच्चा प्रेम क्या है


प्रेम होता है मनसे | मन चंचल है, शरीर स्थिर और जड़ है । शरीरके स्थल पर स्थिरता होसकती है , मनके स्थल पर स्थिरता बहुत मुश्किल है । सुबह फूल खिलाता, शामतक मुर्जाजायेगा और गिरजायेगा ।
फूल जिंदा है - जन्मेगा, जीयेगा और मरेगा ।

जहाँ प्रेमके बिना विवाह होता है, उस विवाह में और वेश्या के पास जानेमे बुनियादी बेद नहीं है ।वेश्या को आप एक दिनकेलिए करीदते है और पत्नी को आप पुरे जीवनकेलिए करीदते है । हालाकि साथ रहनेसे एक तरहका सम्बन्द पैदाहोजाताहै association से, लोग उसी को प्रेम समजलेतेहै वो प्रेम नहीं है ।

एक और स्थिरता है, एक और गड़ी है आद्यात्मिक (spiritual) की उस तलपर जो पति पत्नी एक बार मिलजाते है या दो व्यक्ति मिलजाते है उन्हेंतो ऐसा लगता है कि वे अनन्त जन्मो केलिए एक होगएहै । वहा फिर कोइ परिवर्थन नहीं है । उस स्थल पर चाहिए स्थिरता, उस स्थल पर चाहिए अनुभव । ~OSHO @Sambhog_Se_Samadhi_Ki_Aur_05


आत्मिक प्रेमही साछा प्रेमहै और वाही प्रार्थना बनजाता है ।।

What does the Hindi part above say?
OSHO says -
The heart is the seat of love and the heart is unstable. Body is more stable than the mind. The body is in a state of constancy. The heart is mercurial; the body is constant, stable. A flower blooms in the morning and by evening it droops, falls to the ground. Flowers are alive - born, will survive and die.

There is very little difference between going to a prostitute and being in a marriage without love. You buy a prostitute for a night, whereas you purchase a wife for your whole life; this is the only difference. When there is no love a purchase is being made – whether you are hiring a woman for a night or making arrangements for a lifetime. Of course, because of the day-to-day association a kind of relationship comes into being – and we call it love. This is not love; love is something else altogether. These marriages are simply of the body, and so the relationship can never go any deeper than the physical.

A man and a woman who can meet on the spiritual level, who can unite spiritually – even once – feel they have united for endless lives to come. There is a deep fluidity; timelessness and pure ecstasy. Love is the experience of unity. when two lives unite. When such a harmony exists between two people I call it love.
Read full from the book - "From Sex to Superconsciousness"

I am not sure whenever Osho talks about marriage which he never experienced himself. Why would the bond that manifests through marriage be less than a bond you find outside marriage? You can find each other spiritually, even in an arranged marriage. Love marriage, too. It is always dangerous to generalize just from one's own experience.

But in arranged marriage you expect love from someone who failed to love until marriage. I think first love then marriage would be properly as it brings joy in the relationship but arranged marriages are done based on - superficial appearance, carnal desires, comfort, security, respect, future, wealthiness, caste and other futile stuff except love or joy which is why I think most arranged marriages have gone to the dogs. I feel arranged marriage in nothing but a legal contract for the provision of comfort, sex and security to each other.

Hm difficult to say. I have never been in an arranged marriage. But I know that also in love marriage we marry an illusion, a projection. It needs couple of years to see the real person in the other, initially we see only what we want to see. Then the big disappointment: I married the prince, now he is a frog! Well, we all have princely and frogly aspects... can we go beyond???

OSHO may be in favour of love marriage if at all one wants to marry but he adds -
In Love marriage Joy is there, but joy too is very momentary. And the more romantic a love is, the more danger there is of falling from the peak, and then you fall into a dark valley

Yes, first we have to be married to ourselves. Then, as the cherry on top of the cake, we can take someone else in. A good marriage is a marriage with truth. Your own truth. If hubby accepts it, nice. If not, bye bye.

"more romantic a love is, the more danger there is of falling from the peak" Yep, this is about dependency Romantic love says that two people are one soul in two bodies. You singularly don't exist. Now, what if your partner starts hurting you or hindering you. In your romantic mind you think there is no life without him/her. so you remain with him/her, but suffering.

"In love marriage we marry an illusion, a projection." Long back I've sent a similar msg to my then girlfriend -
"All these days I have been relating to that xxxxx who is residing in my inner space, actually its not you but its like your virtual image created by me and to which I have been giving all the proprietary qualities that makes her more attractive and likely to me. This is all about my xxxxx, for me she is 10 out of 10 but coming to you, I don't know anything about you except the fact that you and the xxxxx that I love look similar to the outside."

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